Madam Acting Deputy Speaker, on a point of order: there are two separate issues and I think some of the interjections might have confused them. The first issue is the concept of when two voices are required, because that goes to the question of whether a division is required. That doesn't change the fact that it is for the chair to call which way the chair thinks the vote went, based on what the chair has heard. If it was called for the noes, it is for those who object to that ruling to call for the division.