I thank the member for Leichhardt for his question. The government is focused on supporting aspirational Australians. We're focused on securing our nation's defences and, in the process, creating as many jobs as possible—jobs and investment, jobs and growth—across the defence industry. It's working. It's working in the member for Leichhardt's electorate in particular. To do that we know that we have to cooperate with businesses large and small. We know that we have to recognise that not every worker is a member of a union. It's not 1950 anymore. And we recognise, of course, that Australians are inherently aspirational—

Mr Perrett interjecting—