As they currently would be $1,300 worse off compared to the existing arrangements, we'll have to assume given the minister won't actually say the words in the House. I don't know if he doesn't know, which is possible, or he doesn't want it on the record, which is a disgrace. It's an absolute disgrace that this government and this minister will come into the House, move amendments and not be prepared to say how many people they will hurt or how much worse off they'll be, but that just sums up this government.