I would ask the member for Jagajaga not to interject; I'm listening to the Manager of Opposition Business. I thank him for his point of order. Having looked at the clock, I have to say to the minister: whilst I allow preambles, we are more than a third of the way through the question. The preamble needs to come to a conclusion, and he needs to bring himself to the question that was asked.

Mr Bowen interjecting—