I didn't hear that. I asked the minister to withdraw. This is what—

Ms Julie Bishop interjecting—

It might help if the foreign minister ceased interjecting. This is the problem when unparliamentary terms are used: the reaction makes what's said next difficult to hear. I asked for him to withdraw; he withdrew immediately. I say to the minister: withdrawals need to be unconditional. But I can't judge on what was said afterwards, I'm sorry, because I didn't hear, as a result of the interjections.