It is absolutely wrong. I know exactly what we said. I said that everyone would have access to at least 25 megabits by 2016. When we did the audit on the NBN shortly after coming into government in 2013, it was perfectly plain that that objective could not be realised.

Opposition members interjecting—

The proposition you have made is completely wrong. The member for Grayndler was more convincing when he was talking to James Massola and Nick McKenzie.

An opposition member interjecting—

I assume it was him.

Mr Albanese interjecting—

Do you want to disavow this? What are you doing?