Let me say, this Leader of the Opposition, when he was a minister in the glory years—that is, the Rudd-Gillard-Rudd years, when he was the employment minister—he said to the Australian public that he believed in Australian workers and that he would stand up for Australian jobs. You know what happened? When he was the employment minister, there were 40,000 extra visas created. If you want to talk about integrity—

Mr Bowen interjecting—