And here we go. That's it, isn't it? I am indebted to the member for Hume. He said we cannot afford Medicare. There we go; the truth comes out. He let his guard down and he just told the truth: 'We can't afford it anymore.' That is the real truth. That is what he said. If the member for Hume thinks we cannot afford it he should say so at the despatch box as well, instead of interjecting it.