I am pleased to contribute to this debate, and I welcome the crossbenchers putting this forward. I have just one thing to start with. We hear that government needs a plan to fix the crisis we are in, but the very reason we are in a crisis is because of government interference in the very first place. Let's just go through how we got into this mess. If we go back to those glory years of the Rudd-Gillard-Rudd regime and if we look to the ABS figures—