My friend says, 'Why didn't I pay my union fees?' Well, because I got told by the supervisor, 'If you join a union, you will get the sack.' The member for Flynn acts like this is some sort of surprise, but he knows that this goes on. He is a truck driver—an owner of trucks. He knows how the real world works. He knows that supervisors say that to workers sometimes: 'Join the union, you get the sack.'