So if it is good enough for the shop distributive and allied trades union, if it is good enough for the shoppies, if it is good enough for the AWU, if it is good enough for them, why are those opposite condemning the decision of the independent umpire, the members of which they appointed, the decisions of which they said they would support? They appointed it, they established it, they claim they support independent umpires in industrial matters and now they are walking away from it, undermining, as Jennie George said, a fundamental element in the industrial relations system.

Ms Henderson interjecting—

Ms Ryan interjecting—

Ms Kate Ellis interjecting—