To the member for Watson's further point, I would put to you that we are actually alternating between government and opposition speakers and that the definition of 'debate' does not require government speakers to be excluded. The purpose of the consideration-in-detail debate is for the minister to answer questions. It is totally proper. To the extent that there is any concern about the interpretation of the standing orders—because it does not provide what the member for Watson is actually saying—I would ask you to use your discretion on this occasion.