savings to the tune of $5 billion over the next period of three years, to 2019. If members opposite do not believe that this is required, will they seriously vote against a bill that creates a special account for where savings can be identified and secured to pay for the NDIS? That will be the test of their mettle on this. Will they support a bill that funds the NDIS?

Mr Bowen interjecting—

Mr Nikolic interjecting—