I thank the member for Hume for his question. He is an extremely effective advocate on the issue of telecommunications, and doesn't he have a lot to demonstrate to his constituents that he has delivered. I have had the opportunity to visit him in Boorowa and in Dalton on two separate occasions, and what he has been able to deliver for his constituents in Hume is extremely impressive. In Goulburn, for example, the biggest centre, some 10,000 premises are to be connected to the fibre to the node network.

Ms Butler interjecting—