The member for Watson will resume his seat. The member for Watson is abusing the right of a point of order. The minister is 30 seconds into his answer. He is completely relevant. I am warning members on both sides—

Ms Plibersek interjecting—

The member for Sydney is warned! The member for Sydney will not interject when I am making a ruling. She might be the deputy leader but it makes no difference. It is disorderly conduct.

Mr Dutton interjecting—

The minister for immigration will cease interjecting. I am going to refer all members to the practice that I have referred to before where Speakers in the past have been prepared to rule on a point of order immediately and, if there are continued frivolous points of order, to not hear it at all.