Once again, I would love to thank the member for Port Adelaide, but, sadly, he keeps avoiding. Let me start with a very simple explanation. The Department of the Environment recently released figures that showed that Australia's latest quarterly emissions were the lowest since 2004, in not just trend but also seasonal terms. Let me repeat that: the lowest emissions since 2004 in both trend and seasonal terms. Beyond that, let me say this: as we said—

Mr Thistlethwaite interjecting—