My question is to the Prime Minister. Shane Townsend is a full-time security guard, who works the night shift to earn about $24,000 a year in penalty rates. Shane's mother is on an age pension and his brother is on a disability pension, and both live with Shane. Without penalty rates, Shane says they would be 'out on the street'. Given the Prime Minister's previous answer, can the Prime Minister confirm that any changes to penalty rates will only happen if Shane volunteers to have his pay cut?

Ms Henderson interjecting—