I say again to the honourable member for McMahon, despite his best endeavours, the fact is there is a range of different indicators that are more positive such as business conditions. If he wants to know, in the member for McMahon's last period as Treasurer, which was only a few weeks, the forecast, for example, that the unemployment rate would rise to 6¼ per cent in a much shorter period than what has happened with us.

Mr Conroy interjecting—