I again thank the member for Makin. I will be brief, not through any disrespect to his questions. I cannot divulge the number of applications or the number of successful application in relation to the next generation manufacturing investment program. I will do so when we make that announcement.

In terms of the shipbuilding industry and submarines, we are currently in the competitive evaluation process, which will run for some time as yet; and no decision has been made with respect to whether submarines will be built. As the Minister for Industry, I am involved in the discussions that the government has at a very high level in relation to the shipbuilding industry, and I remain optimistic in terms of its future.