The honourable member is confusing two issues. The NBN Co and, of course, the telcos know where pair gain systems are located. If you are saying to NBN Co, 'What do you know about the state of the copper—that is, whether the pits are broken, whether there are poor joints, whether there is water penetration through some of the binders and so forth?' then that information is not going to be available until such time as you check it out.