There is a very simple issue here: is it or is it not fair for taxpayers to have to pay two lots of paid parental leave to the public servants of the Commonwealth? That is the issue, and members opposite plainly think that it is right and proper that taxpayers should pay two lots of paid parental leave to Commonwealth public servants. Well, I want a good deal for the families of Australia. I want a fair deal for the families of Australia, and it is not fair that taxpayers should pay twice for the same thing. It is just not fair.

Ms Macklin interjecting—