Madam Speaker, I was asked about debt and deficit and that is what I am talking about. The Leader of the Opposition did another horror interview this morning. It was with Neil Mitchell. Thirteen times Neil Mitchell asked the Leader of the Opposition, 'Do you, as Labor leader, accept any responsibility for the problems with the deficit?' Thirteen times he slid around, he evaded, he obfuscated and then, on the 13th time, he finally said, 'no'. Nothing to see here!

Mr Truss interjecting—