Professor Triggs did not have an inquiry into children in detention when there were 2,000 of them or when there were 1,400 of them, but we do know that she did discuss it with Labor members of parliament and with ministers in the former government and decided not to do it because, she said, it would be too political. It is too political to have an inquiry into children in detention when there are 1,400 of them, but it is not too political to do it when the number is under 200.

Dr Chalmers interjecting—