When I gave the answer in question to the member for Longman, it was absolutely true. But there were subsequent developments. I absolutely accept that the commitment that I gave—standing on the side of the Penrith Panthers home ground the night before the election—not to cut the ABC, we have broken that. And frankly, it is just as well we did, because the ABC had not been subject to an efficiency dividend since 1996.

Ms Plibersek interjecting—