I am continuing my answer. The Leader of the Opposition went to the ASC and he said that the last thing Australia should ever have is a Japanese submarine. That is what he said. He said, 'Because remember World War II.' That is exactly what he said. He was kind of like a reverse John Cleese. That is what he was: 'Remember the war?'

Mr Shorten interjecting—

He says, 'Show us your transcript.' That is the transcript that he would not put out. He is such a big man before the union officials.

Government members interjecting—