I thank the honourable member for her question and note that obviously the ABC is an integral part of regional Australia. And of course the ABC, like every other department, has had to deal with the curse of the Labor Party and the curse that was delivered to us by a budget where, the member for Lilley told us, there was going to be an $18 billion deficit—an $18,000 million deficit, which is quite extraordinary. What we actually got delivered was a $48 billion deficit—a $48,000 million deficit.

Ms Ryan interjecting—