it is only about the process. We know that Labor cannot be trusted when it comes to skills, trades and training. They will always say one thing and do another, because deep in their DNA is the belief that the trades and training are the B team and university is the A team—a failure to recognise that 60 per cent of students do not, nor should they, go to university. We are working with the Victorian government to deliver—

Ms Rishworth interjecting—