I just got some advice from the Clerk, who advised that I should give the call to the minister.

Mr Thistlethwaite interjecting—

Please sit down. I have given the call to the minister.

Honourable members interjecting—

One minute you want me to take the advice and the next minute you do not. This time I have taken the Clerk's advice, as I did last time when I gave the call to the member for Grayndler. I am giving the call to the minister and I would like the member for Kingsford Smith to sit down. We are not going to have these shenanigans for the rest of the afternoon.