I was asked about the co-payment and I am answering about the co-payment. Let me repeat:

… there's a better way of operating a health system, and the change should hardly hurt at all. As economists have shown, the ideal model involves a small co-payment—not enough to put a dent in your weekly budget, but enough to make you think twice before you call the doc. And the idea is hardly radical.

Mr Champion interjecting—