Mr Speaker, I ask a supplementary question. As it appears the Prime Minister has stood by the statement in that transcript, can the Prime Minister then explain why last Wednesday David Speers reported: 'Well, I did have Mr Hodges in the office here on the day that we are talking about before the protest had actually happened and he did refer to Tony Abbott's comments.' How was Mr Hodges briefing Mr Speers in the Sky studio before the protest on something the Prime Minister claims he did not yet know?