Rob Chalmers's life and, indeed, his passing remind me about the very nature of this place. I feel like I knew Rob Chalmers very well, but I realise now on reflection that I did not really know the man at all. By that, I mean that I knew him in his professional life but I did not know anything much at all about his personal life. The member for Banks and I are very close. I hope he will agree with that statement.