Order! This is a perennial problem. I would indicate to the member for Hughes that the member for North Sydney has some expertise in this matter, because he has raised it with me. The ticketed areas of the galleries were booked out—absolutely booked out. What I do not think is realised is that there are still walk-up tickets. He is quite right that there were plenty of spaces at the start of question time. But there are two distinct things in operation.