I understand the submission being put to me by the member for Mackellar, but I was illustrating that this is not an exact science. I would hate to give the lecture about the Procedure Committee again, but my concern is that this is in the area where debate is allowed in the answers which is ruled out in the questions. That is how the standing orders and practice stand at the moment, until the House decides otherwise. The minister is responding to the question and I am sure that he is coming to a finale.