My question is addressed to the Minister for Defence. I refer the minister to his failure to answer a very straightforward question from the member for Fadden. I give him the opportunity to answer it now. I ask the minister: how much money has been deducted from the pay packets of SAS soldiers by way of debt recovery since August 2008? Has the minister personally met with any serving members of the SAS who have had their salaries reduced and been hit with debt notices and, if so, when did those meetings take place?