The member for Casey does not have the call. There is no convention. There are no standing orders. I do not have anything. I have never been given anything. All I know is that whoever is first on their feet gets the call. I would have given it to the other side but nobody was on their feet. I will give it to the member for Shortland, but then I will go to the other side because I do not necessarily have to give it back to the minister.