Senate debates

Thursday, 10 August 2017

Questions without Notice

Immigration Detention

2:15 pm

Photo of Nick McKimNick McKim (Tasmania, Australian Greens) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is to the minister representing the immigration minister, Senator Cash. Senator, I refer you to the humanitarian crises your government has created on Manus Island and Nauru. Do you agree that neither Manus Island nor Nauru are safe for the people Australia has imprisoned there, and that the United States deal, which has been trumpeted by your government, has been exposed by Prime Minister Turnbull in his conversation with Donald Trump as a sham? Are you aware of Hamed Shamshiripour, who was found dead this week, after being held and tortured for years in Australia's prison on Manus Island? Why was he abandoned and left to suffer in Australia's prison on Manus Island? Why was he denied medical care by the Australian government? Why was he not brought to Australia? And are you happy with the outcome you have helped achieve there?

2:16 pm

Photo of Michaelia CashMichaelia Cash (WA, Liberal Party, Minister for Women) Share this | | Hansard source

I thank Senator McKim for his question. In relation to the first part of your question where you referred to crises, I absolutely dispute that. The only crisis, as you and I both know, was one created a number of years ago now, when you joined with the former Labor government to roll back the former Howard government's strong border protection policies which then resulted in the situation where we are today. In relation to that particular crisis, may I again remind you that, when we were elected to office in 2013, we had a job on our hands to clean up your mess: 50,000 people had arrived here by boat, and 1,200 people had died at sea.

Photo of Stephen ParryStephen Parry (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Order! Senator McKim on a point of order.

Photo of Nick McKimNick McKim (Tasmania, Australian Greens) Share this | | Hansard source

The point of order is relevance. I acknowledge that I asked a number of questions in my preliminary question, but I will make the point that none of those questions, in any way, went to the historically inaccurate information Senator Cash is currently putting before the Senate.

Photo of Gavin MarshallGavin Marshall (Victoria, Australian Labor Party) Share this | | Hansard source

There were seven elements to your question, Senator McKim, so it's quite lengthy. The minister has been on topic, but I will remind the minister of the seven elements of your question.

Photo of Michaelia CashMichaelia Cash (WA, Liberal Party, Minister for Women) Share this | | Hansard source

As I was stating, 1,200 people died at sea and in excess of 8,000 children were put behind bars in detention and whom this government released. In relation to the allegations that you have made in terms of the incident on Manus Island, again, they are currently the subject of an investigation by the Papua New Guinean coroner's office and, as such, it would be inappropriate for me to make any further comment at this stage.

Photo of Stephen ParryStephen Parry (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator McKim, a supplementary question.

2:18 pm

Photo of Nick McKimNick McKim (Tasmania, Australian Greens) Share this | | Hansard source

Minister, there's clear evidence that the chief medical officer, Dr Brayley, was personally told of Hamed Shamshiripour's deteriorating mental health condition over one year ago. Despite this, he was not brought to Australia for treatment. Will you at least say Hamed's name and will you apologise to his family for the treatment he suffered at Australia's hands?

2:19 pm

Photo of Michaelia CashMichaelia Cash (WA, Liberal Party, Minister for Women) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr President, I am sure you would be aware that merely because Senator McKim stands in this place and asserts something does not mean that it is true. But I will again state that, as this matter is currently being investigated by the Papua New Guinean coroner's office, it would be inappropriate for me to comment any further at this stage.

Photo of Stephen ParryStephen Parry (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator McKim, a final supplementary question.

Photo of Nick McKimNick McKim (Tasmania, Australian Greens) Share this | | Hansard source

I note that the minister did not reject the assertion that I made. Finally, through you, President, now that the transcript of the infamous phone call between Prime Minister Turnbull and Donald Trump has shown the US deal to be a complete sham that does not oblige the US to accept a single person—and that PM Turnbull was basically begging Donald Trump not to—will you evacuate the centres on Manus Island and Nauru and bring the people incarcerated there to safety in Australia?

Photo of George BrandisGeorge Brandis (Queensland, Liberal Party, Attorney-General) Share this | | Hansard source

The ones that you opened?

2:20 pm

Photo of Michaelia CashMichaelia Cash (WA, Liberal Party, Minister for Women) Share this | | Hansard source

Again, the answer to your question is clearly no. As Senator Brandis has once again articulated, Senator McKim, we are trying our very best to clean up the problem that you have made. When we left office in 2007, there was no-one in detention. When we came back to office in 2013, in excess of 50,000 people had arrived here illegally by boat and 1,200 people had died trying to make the passage to Australia. Despite all of your rhetoric, your false ignorance in relation to children and your confected outrage, in excess of 8,000 children were placed in detention behind bars because of decisions that you made.