Senate debates

Thursday, 16 February 2017

Questions without Notice

Medicare

2:51 pm

Photo of Helen PolleyHelen Polley (Tasmania, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Parliamentary Secretary for Aged Care) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is to the Minister representing the Minister for Health, Senator Nash. I refer to the new Minister for Health, Greg Hunt, who says:

I have and we have a rock solid commitment to the future of Medicare …

Given the new minister's commitment, will the minister confirm the government will abandon its six-year freeze on Medicare rebates?

Photo of Fiona NashFiona Nash (NSW, National Party, Deputy Leader of the Nationals) Share this | | Hansard source

I can indeed confirm that this government has a rock-solid commitment to the future of Medicare. I am not going to be lectured by those on the other side about the Medicare freeze and I will tell you why, because many people listening might not know that it was actually Labor that introduced the Medicare freeze, and indeed it was the member for Sydney. It was reported in Australian Doctor on a 22 May 2013, 'Doctors can afford rebate freeze, says Plibersek.' Not only did they introduce it; they said doctors can afford it. She said:

I understand that GPs have all sorts of expenses in running their surgeries and employing staff and so on, but the average billing from Medicare is more than $350,000 a year.

Ms Plibersek said she accepted some GPs would opt out of bulk-billing as a result of the freeze, but she hoped that not many would take this course of action: 'I'd be disappointed if a lot of people made that choice,' said the Labor minister at the time. She dismissed concerns that the freeze would pressure doctors to compromise care—

Photo of Stephen ParryStephen Parry (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Pause the clock. Senator Gallagher on a point of order?

Photo of Katy GallagherKaty Gallagher (ACT, Australian Labor Party) Share this | | Hansard source

I know Senator Nash is keen on talking about Labor, but the question—and she has taken more than half of her time— was, given the new minister's commitment, will the minister confirm that the government will abandon its six-year freeze on Medicare rebates. That is the question that we were asking of the minister.

Photo of Stephen ParryStephen Parry (President) Share this | | Hansard source

I will remind the minister of the question.

Photo of Fiona NashFiona Nash (NSW, National Party, Deputy Leader of the Nationals) Share this | | Hansard source

Thank you, Mr President—I did, I thought, answer that at the outset. I was disappointed that the senator stopped me, because I was just about to say that the previous Labor minister had said about this:

Will some people respond in a way that is unhelpful for their patients? Perhaps.

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Pause the clock. Senator Wong on a point of order.

Photo of Penny WongPenny Wong (SA, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Opposition in the Senate) Share this | | Hansard source

It is a point of order on relevance. From Senator Brandis in response to Senator Xenophon and now this minister, we really do have an abuse of question time. Ministers are asked questions, and the one question was: given the new minister's commitment, will the minister confirm the government will abandon its six-year freeze on Medicare rebates? We understand that some political hyperbole is part of how we deal with question time, but this minister has spent some 1½ minutes talking only about a former Labor minister—can't she answer the question? Is she unable to answer the question?

Photo of Stephen ParryStephen Parry (President) Share this | | Hansard source

I did hear the minister at the outset confirm that Medicare would be maintained, but the minister did not go directly to the exact question—she was relevant, but not directly relevant to the exact question. I remind the minister of the question, and she has 29 seconds in which to answer.

Photo of Fiona NashFiona Nash (NSW, National Party, Deputy Leader of the Nationals) Share this | | Hansard source

I think it is entirely appropriate that I have made the comments I have so far, because the Australian people deserve to know when Labor ask a question about the Medicare freeze that it was Labor that brought the Medicare freeze in. It is this government that is going to ensure we have a sustainable Medicare into the future, unlike those opposite, who economically do not recognise that we have to make sensible decisions to ensure that sustainability. (Time expired)

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Senator Polley, a supplementary question.

2:55 pm

Photo of Helen PolleyHelen Polley (Tasmania, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Parliamentary Secretary for Aged Care) Share this | | Hansard source

Will the minister confirm that the government will abandon its cuts to Medicare bulk-billing incentives for vital tests and scans as part of his 'rock-solid' commitment to the future of Medicare?

Photo of Fiona NashFiona Nash (NSW, National Party, Deputy Leader of the Nationals) Share this | | Hansard source

The coalition is absolutely committed to increasing affordable bulk-billed services, and that includes tests and scans. We made a commitment at the last election to reduce regulatory cost pressures on pathology providers, and we struck a deal with the pathology sector that will improve compliance regarding the charging of fair market value rents, which the senator may not be aware of, for pathology collection centres by landlords. These changes will allow the pathology sector to continue to provide all Australians with affordable access to pathology services through maintaining the current bulk-billing rates.

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Senator Polley, a final supplementary question.

2:56 pm

Photo of Helen PolleyHelen Polley (Tasmania, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Parliamentary Secretary for Aged Care) Share this | | Hansard source

Can the minister give a rock-solid commitment to Medicare if the government will not abandon its six-year Medicare freeze?

Photo of Fiona NashFiona Nash (NSW, National Party, Deputy Leader of the Nationals) Share this | | Hansard source

We will absolutely give a rock-solid commitment to Medicare. The new minister, Minister Hunt, did that and we as a government do that—we give a rock-solid commitment to the future of Medicare. I do not know how many times I have to say that to those opposite before it sinks in. It is this government that has spent more on Medicare than ever before—$22.8 billion; it was only $19.2 billion under Labor, an increase in spending on Medicare. The bulk-billing rates under the coalition government are higher than those opposite delivered, higher than ever before, at 85.4 per cent as opposed to 82.2 per cent under Labor. Anybody listening would realise that under the coalition spending has increased and it is the coalition that is committed to Medicare. (Time expired)