Senate debates

Monday, 19 November 2012

Bills

Illegal Logging Prohibition Bill 2012; In Committee

6:11 pm

Photo of Joe LudwigJoe Ludwig (Queensland, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry) Share this | Hansard source

For the due diligence, say, it does not rule out that the importer may utilise that type of technology. It is not technology specific. The difficulty always is that if you pick a particular technology—and you would be familiar with telephone interception legislation—over time you can get caught and find that it has been overtaken by new and different types. That is why it is a framework based on due diligence provided by the importer and audited by the regulator. If the importer wants to use that type of technology, it does not rule it out and it can be utilised to substantiate their due diligence. It is important to recognise here that it is not a requirement that everyone adopt a particular type of technology because it will not suit all circumstances.

Again, the importer of commercial quantities of furniture will have to go through a process of due diligence. On the risk matrix, I think you misunderstand how a risk matrix operates. It is the same one we use in policing. It is the same one we use in business. We utilise the same risk matrix. Again, you confuse an IRA with a risk matrix. They are two different things. I cannot help with why you confuse that, but you do. It is important to recognise that risks identified are the important part. You identify high risk, you identify moderate risk or you identify low risk, and your effort is in the high- risk area.

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