Gavin Marshall (Victoria, Australian Labor Party) Share this | Hansard source

I know Senator Ian Macdonald does not like to listen to these real-life examples of how incompetent the previous government was in managing these programs. We will talk about lots of things, Senator Macdonald, but maybe you should listen and you might learn something. One of the lessons you are going to have to learn in opposition is how to actually run and manage yourselves and present yourselves to the public where you might become competitive again.