House debates

Wednesday, 24 June 2015

Questions without Notice

Attorney-General, Minister for Foreign Affairs

2:00 pm

Photo of Tanya PlibersekTanya Plibersek (Sydney, Australian Labor Party, Deputy Leader of the Opposition) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is to the Minister representing the Attorney-General. I refer to the letter the Attorney-General received from Man Haron Monis on 9 October 2014. According to Senate testimony last night, the Attorney-General's Department knew on Monday, 1 June that the department had not provided the letter to the Martin Place siege inquiry. Given that the Attorney-General knew on Monday that both he and the Minister for Foreign Affairs had misled the parliament, why wasn't the record corrected before Thursday, 4 June?

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

I would remind the member for Sydney that, if one wishes to say that the parliament has been misled, it requires a substantive motion. Perhaps she would like to rephrase.

Photo of Mr Tony BurkeMr Tony Burke (Watson, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Finance) Share this | | Hansard source

I raise a point of order, Madam Speaker. Just to clarify: the question that was asked quotes the date on which it was realised, that being after the misleading occurred.

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

This is argument, so it is not a point of order.

Photo of Mr Tony BurkeMr Tony Burke (Watson, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Finance) Share this | | Hansard source

No, it goes to why it is not intentional and it is not being asserted as such.

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

Well, I am sorry; I am just inviting the member for Sydney to rephrase her question.

Photo of Tanya PlibersekTanya Plibersek (Sydney, Australian Labor Party, Deputy Leader of the Opposition) Share this | | Hansard source

Madam Speaker, I will say that I did not say that the parliament was deliberately misled, but to assist you I will say: provided false information to the parliament.

2:02 pm

Photo of Ms Julie BishopMs Julie Bishop (Curtin, Liberal Party, Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

The record was corrected at the earliest opportunity after receiving formal confirmation—

Opposition Members:

Opposition members interjecting

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

There will be silence on my left!

Photo of Ms Julie BishopMs Julie Bishop (Curtin, Liberal Party, Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

from the Secretary of the Attorney-General's Department on—

Opposition members interjecting

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

There will be silence on my left!

Photo of Ms Julie BishopMs Julie Bishop (Curtin, Liberal Party, Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

I thought they wanted to hear the answer.

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

Indeed. The minister has the call.

Mr Bowen interjecting

The member for McMahon is warned.

Photo of Ms Julie BishopMs Julie Bishop (Curtin, Liberal Party, Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

May I start again, Madam Speaker?

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The minister has the call.

Photo of Ms Julie BishopMs Julie Bishop (Curtin, Liberal Party, Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

May the clock start again? I had a serious question.

Opposition members interjecting

I have not been able to hear myself, let alone anybody else hear the answer. I thought they were taking this seriously.

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The minister has a point. We will reset the clock.

Photo of Ms Julie BishopMs Julie Bishop (Curtin, Liberal Party, Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

Thank you. Madam Speaker, the record was corrected at the earliest opportunity after receiving formal confirmation from the Secretary of the Attorney-General's Department on 4 June 2015.

Opposition members interjecting

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

There will be silence on my left!

Photo of Ms Julie BishopMs Julie Bishop (Curtin, Liberal Party, Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

That information was received in writing at 2.43 pm. The advice was that the earlier advice from the department was wrong. Katherine Jones, Deputy Secretary of the Attorney-General's Department, on 4 June, by email to the committee, advised the committee at 2.55 pm. I received information during question time, after 3 pm, that the record had been corrected as far as the committee was concerned, and at 3.09 pm, minutes later, at the end of question time, I corrected the record. The Attorney-General sent a letter to the committee on 4 June at 3.15 pm, again hand delivered.

The initial advice to the Attorney-General on 1 June was that it appeared that the evidence was wrong. He immediately asked the Secretary of the Attorney-General's Department to conduct a review, and the outcome of that review was the information provided to the Attorney-General on the afternoon of 4 June, as I have just outlined. Prior to 4 June, I was in Paris.

Mr Dreyfus interjecting

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member for Isaacs will desist.