House debates

Thursday, 18 June 2015

Questions without Notice

National Security

2:00 pm

Photo of Bill ShortenBill Shorten (Maribyrnong, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Opposition) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is to the Prime Minister. I refer to the extraordinary leaks from cabinet on important national security matters. Can the Prime Minister confirm that the reason his legislation will only be considered by the National Security Committee is that the Prime Minister cannot get it through his full cabinet?

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

I am delighted to get this question from the Leader of the Opposition because it gives me an opportunity to say that this government has a very clear position. We are stripping citizenship from terrorists who are dual nationals. We are stripping citizenship from terrorists who are dual nationals because if someone leaves this country to fight for a terrorist army in Syria or Iraq we do not want them back.

Photo of Tanya PlibersekTanya Plibersek (Sydney, Australian Labor Party, Deputy Leader of the Opposition) Share this | | Hansard source

Why don't you show us some legislation?

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member for Sydney will desist.

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

If you leave this country to fight for a terrorist army in Syria or Iraq, you are committing a modern form of treason and we do not want you back.

Ms Plibersek interjecting

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member for Sydney will desist or leave—one or the other.

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

The government has a very clear position. We do not want terrorists coming back to Australia.

Photo of Mark DreyfusMark Dreyfus (Isaacs, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Attorney General) Share this | | Hansard source

Show us the bill.

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

If the member for Isaacs is anxious for an early mark, I can accommodate him.

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

The Labor Party, the opposition, have had three positions in just three weeks.

Photo of Nick ChampionNick Champion (Wakefield, Australian Labor Party) Share this | | Hansard source

And you have had no bill.

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member for Wakefield is warned.

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

First of all they said that stripping citizenship from terrorists who are dual nationals was dog whistling. That was their first position. The second position they had was that they supported it in principle. But today, this morning, courtesy of the shadow Attorney-General, they have a third position and that is: if you are a terrorist going to Syria or Iraq to fight with a terrorist army, the shadow Attorney-General says, 'Please come back. We want you back. We will roll out the red carpet. We will roll out the welcome mat. Just come back.'

Photo of Bill ShortenBill Shorten (Maribyrnong, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Opposition) Share this | | Hansard source

Madam Speaker—

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The Leader of the Opposition on a point of order? You may not enter into argument but you may raise a point of order.

Photo of Bill ShortenBill Shorten (Maribyrnong, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Opposition) Share this | | Hansard source

That was a disgraceful slur from this desperate Prime Minister. He should withdraw right now.

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

Resume your seat.

Photo of Bill ShortenBill Shorten (Maribyrnong, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Opposition) Share this | | Hansard source

You always use slogans. You should withdraw.

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

If the Leader of the Opposition does not resume his seat, he will leave the chamber.

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

If I had said something that was untrue, if I had said something that had impugned—

Photo of Tanya PlibersekTanya Plibersek (Sydney, Australian Labor Party, Deputy Leader of the Opposition) Share this | | Hansard source

You have said many many things that are untrue.

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

I have said the member for Sydney will desist or leave. The choice is hers. We will have some silence. The Prime Minister has the call.

Opposition members: Withdraw.

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

If I had said something that was unfair, of course I would withdraw. I want to quote the exact words of the shadow Attorney-General today. Kieran Gilbert on Sky TV said to the shadow Attorney-General:

So, someone who is fighting in Al-Raqqah in Syria?

And the shadow Attorney-General said:

Well, you get them back here.

So he wants terrorists back in Australia.

Photo of Mr Tony BurkeMr Tony Burke (Watson, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Finance) Share this | | Hansard source

That's inaccurate.

Photo of Mrs Bronwyn BishopMrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | | Hansard source

The member will resume his seat.

Photo of Tony AbbottTony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | | Hansard source

Let me do it again. Kieran Gilbert of Sky News said:

So, someone who is fighting in Al-Raqqah in Syria?

What do you do about them? That was the question. Mark Dreyfus said:

Well, you get them back here.

He wants to bring the terrorists back; the government wants to keep them out—it is as simple as that.