House debates
Thursday, 18 June 2015
Questions without Notice
National Security
2:00 pm
Bill Shorten (Maribyrnong, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Opposition) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
My question is to the Prime Minister. I refer to the extraordinary leaks from cabinet on important national security matters. Can the Prime Minister confirm that the reason his legislation will only be considered by the National Security Committee is that the Prime Minister cannot get it through his full cabinet?
Tony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
I am delighted to get this question from the Leader of the Opposition because it gives me an opportunity to say that this government has a very clear position. We are stripping citizenship from terrorists who are dual nationals. We are stripping citizenship from terrorists who are dual nationals because if someone leaves this country to fight for a terrorist army in Syria or Iraq we do not want them back.
Tanya Plibersek (Sydney, Australian Labor Party, Deputy Leader of the Opposition) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
Why don't you show us some legislation?
Mrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
The member for Sydney will desist.
Tony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
If you leave this country to fight for a terrorist army in Syria or Iraq, you are committing a modern form of treason and we do not want you back.
Ms Plibersek interjecting—
Mrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
The member for Sydney will desist or leave—one or the other.
Tony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
The government has a very clear position. We do not want terrorists coming back to Australia.
Mark Dreyfus (Isaacs, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Attorney General) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
Show us the bill.
Mrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
If the member for Isaacs is anxious for an early mark, I can accommodate him.
Tony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
The Labor Party, the opposition, have had three positions in just three weeks.
Nick Champion (Wakefield, Australian Labor Party) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
And you have had no bill.
Mrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
The member for Wakefield is warned.
Tony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
First of all they said that stripping citizenship from terrorists who are dual nationals was dog whistling. That was their first position. The second position they had was that they supported it in principle. But today, this morning, courtesy of the shadow Attorney-General, they have a third position and that is: if you are a terrorist going to Syria or Iraq to fight with a terrorist army, the shadow Attorney-General says, 'Please come back. We want you back. We will roll out the red carpet. We will roll out the welcome mat. Just come back.'
Bill Shorten (Maribyrnong, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Opposition) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
Madam Speaker—
Mrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
The Leader of the Opposition on a point of order? You may not enter into argument but you may raise a point of order.
Bill Shorten (Maribyrnong, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Opposition) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
That was a disgraceful slur from this desperate Prime Minister. He should withdraw right now.
Bill Shorten (Maribyrnong, Australian Labor Party, Leader of the Opposition) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
You always use slogans. You should withdraw.
Mrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
If the Leader of the Opposition does not resume his seat, he will leave the chamber.
Tony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
If I had said something that was untrue, if I had said something that had impugned—
Tanya Plibersek (Sydney, Australian Labor Party, Deputy Leader of the Opposition) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
You have said many many things that are untrue.
Mrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
I have said the member for Sydney will desist or leave. The choice is hers. We will have some silence. The Prime Minister has the call.
Opposition members: Withdraw.
Tony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
If I had said something that was unfair, of course I would withdraw. I want to quote the exact words of the shadow Attorney-General today. Kieran Gilbert on Sky TV said to the shadow Attorney-General:
So, someone who is fighting in Al-Raqqah in Syria?
And the shadow Attorney-General said:
Well, you get them back here.
So he wants terrorists back in Australia.
Mr Tony Burke (Watson, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Minister for Finance) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
That's inaccurate.
Mrs Bronwyn Bishop (Speaker) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
The member will resume his seat.
Tony Abbott (Warringah, Liberal Party, Prime Minister) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
Let me do it again. Kieran Gilbert of Sky News said:
So, someone who is fighting in Al-Raqqah in Syria?
What do you do about them? That was the question. Mark Dreyfus said:
Well, you get them back here.
He wants to bring the terrorists back; the government wants to keep them out—it is as simple as that.