Sean Bell NSW, Pauline Hanson's One Nation Party
2:42 pm
My question goes to the Minister representing the Minister for Home Affairs, Senator Watt. Minister, the Prime Minister's handpicked economic reform expert, Professor Robert Breunig, says that One Nation's proposal to stop people visa hopping after their temporary visas expire is a good idea that 'should be implemented'. Professor Breunig also stated:
It's entirely sensible and acceptable to require overstayers to leave the country. They came under an agreement to be here temporarily and they need to honour their side of the agreement.
Will the government adopt One Nation's policy and commit to ending visa hopping across all temporary visa categories and send the many thousands of people who are engaged in this unhelpful behaviour home?
Murray Watt Queensland, Australian Labor Party, Minister for the Environment and Water
2:43 pm
Thank you, Senator Bell, for the question. It is a matter of record that the government is considering a range of changes to our migration system to build on the work that we've done over the last four years to dramatically reduce the migration numbers we inherited from the coalition.
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Opposition Senators:
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Murray Watt Queensland, Australian Labor Party, Minister for the Environment and Water
Well, it's a fact.
Matthew Canavan Queensland, Liberal National Party
What a joke! They peaked under you!
Murray Watt Queensland, Australian Labor Party, Minister for the Environment and Water
Do we want to go back to the review that was done of the migration system under that bloke whose name you don't ever mention, Peter Dutton, which found that the migration system presided over by the former coalition government was completely rorted, completely broken and needed to be fixed?
It's by fixing that migration system that this government has brought down net overseas migration by 45 per cent over the last four years, compared to the spike that we saw shortly after coming to government. In addition, it is a matter of record that we are considering further changes to our migration system. We won't be taking instructions from One Nation when it comes to our migration policy. We won't be adopting a migration policy that is destined to send the Australian economy into recession. We won't be taking up One Nation's suggestions to have a migration policy that means that hospitals and aged-care facilities in our suburbs and regions will not be staffed. We won't be taking up suggestions for migration that drive the economy into recession, meaning that people will be out of work, because, when economies go into recession, that tends to lead to unemployment. That's what One Nation wants to see happen to Australian workers right across the country.
It's not just the government saying this; we've seen comments from the Business Council of Australia, the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry, and the National Farmers' Federation, who said that One Nation's policy would have a terrible impact for farmers. We won't be taking those suggestions. We'll be coming up with good ideas, not bad ones. (Time expired)
Sean Bell NSW, Pauline Hanson's One Nation Party
2:45 pm
Professor Robert Breunig, again, an expert for the Labor government, whose immigration policy has also received Treasury funding, said:
Another good One Nation idea is to stop the inflows of students who are doing low-quality courses.
Will the government adopt One Nation's policy here and refuse student visas for low-quality courses and take that direction?
Murray Watt Queensland, Australian Labor Party, Minister for the Environment and Water
Senator Bell, I realise you haven't been here that long, but this government has already reduced international student numbers, and my recollection of that is that it wasn't supported by all sides sitting over on that side of the chamber when our government reduced those international students. Senator Henderson, I think, might have been the shadow minister at the time, and she had all sorts of good ideas about reducing international student numbers until it came to the time when she had to come in here and vote, and she voted against our efforts to reduce international student numbers.
Sarah Henderson Victoria, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Communications and Digital Safety
No, you haven't! They've gone up. They haven't gone down.
Murray Watt Queensland, Australian Labor Party, Minister for the Environment and Water
Oh, here we go! I knew that would work.
Sarah Henderson Victoria, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Communications and Digital Safety
On a point of order on direct relevance, the government withdrew the bill—
Sarah Henderson Victoria, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Communications and Digital Safety
There was no vote. He doesn't even know what he's talking about.
Sue Lines President
Senator Henderson, please resume your seat. You know very well that it is a debating point.
Murray Watt Queensland, Australian Labor Party, Minister for the Environment and Water
Senator Henderson, if only you could see your colleagues' faces when you take points of order—it really is something to behold.
As for One Nation, I've already made the point that One Nation's policy would have a terrible economic impact on the Australian economy. But the irony of this is that not only does One Nation want to stop skilled migrants coming into Australia; they also oppose training Australians by investing in free TAFE. So they don't want Australians to fill jobs in hospitals, aged care, abattoirs and farms and they don't want migrants to. They want no-one to have a job, and they want the Australian economy to fall apart. (Time expired)
Sean Bell NSW, Pauline Hanson's One Nation Party
2:47 pm
(): In the 2025-26 budget, the government forecast a net overseas migration of 260,000 for the last financial year. With the actual numbers soon to be revealed, what are the government's current figures for net overseas migration for the last financial year, and why does the Albanese government continually get its migration forecasts so badly wrong?
Murray Watt Queensland, Australian Labor Party, Minister for the Environment and Water
Senator Bell, you've answered your own question by saying that we haven't yet revealed the figures for net overseas migration. That will be updated at the mid-year financial review. That's what happens. They get updated in the budget, they get updated in MYEFO, and that will occur again this year. In the meantime, the government will continue doing the hard work to come up with a sensible migration policy that does continue to build on our efforts, which have already reduced net overseas migration by 45 per cent. But we will do it in a way that doesn't plunge the Australian economy into recession, that doesn't leave our hospitals and aged-care facilities short of the workers that they need—
Sean Bell NSW, Pauline Hanson's One Nation Party
On a point of order on relevance, I did ask about the latest prediction for net overseas migration.
Sue Lines President
And the minister's being directly relevant to your question. Thank you, Senator Bell.
Murray Watt Queensland, Australian Labor Party, Minister for the Environment and Water
As I say, those figures will be updated in MYEFO, and our migration policy will not plunge Australia's economy into recession, leaving people unemployed. It will not deprive Australian hospitals, aged-care facilities, construction sites or the hospitality industry of the workers that they need, and it will certainly not turn Australians against each other in the way that One Nation is determined to do.