Senate debates
Wednesday, 4 March 2026
Questions without Notice
National Security
2:38 pm
Jonathon Duniam (Tasmania, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Environment, Fisheries and Forestry) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
My question is to the Minister for Foreign Affairs, Senator Wong. Yesterday you were asked by Sky News host Andrew Clenell on the issue of ISIS brides: did you or your office have any involvement in helping Jamal Rifi obtain 34 passports for them? In your answer, you very precisely said, 'Look, the issue of passports, I have not engaged with Mr Rifi on this.' Minister, did your office engage with Mr Rifi in any way on this issue of passports for the ISIS brides cohort?
2:39 pm
Penny Wong (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
I wasn't aware personally of Mr Rifi's engagement in the way you describe until that had become more public. I think Minister Burke has made clear he had no knowledge of Mr Rifi's actions and whereabouts other than what he had read in the media. I again say to you: Australians who are eligible are entitled to a passport. That's not a decision by my office. It's a decision under the legislation. There are circumstances in which, for security reasons, a passport might be cancelled or suspended. I think you referred belatedly to the appropriate section yesterday, and I—
Sorry! You referred to the appropriate section yesterday, and I made clear to you that the advice from ASIO or another competent authority which enables the minister to cancel or suspend was not provided.
Sue Lines (President) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
Are you on a point of order, Senator Duniam?
Jonathon Duniam (Tasmania, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Environment, Fisheries and Forestry) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
It was just in relation to relevance. I did ask whether the minister's office had engaged with Dr Rifi or not.
Sue Lines (President) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
The minister has responded to that. She is being relevant. Minister Wong, did you have anything further to add? If not, Senator Duniam, first supplementary?
2:40 pm
Jonathon Duniam (Tasmania, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Environment, Fisheries and Forestry) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
Minister, have you engaged with Mr Rifi about any matters in relation to the ISIS brides cohort?
2:41 pm
Penny Wong (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
No, I have not.
Sue Lines (President) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
Senator Duniam, second supplementary?
Jonathon Duniam (Tasmania, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Environment, Fisheries and Forestry) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
Minister, has your office engaged with Mr Rifi about any matters in relation to the so-called ISIS brides cohort?
Penny Wong (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | Link to this | Hansard source
I do not believe so. I have no knowledge of it, and I will confirm.