Senate debates

Monday, 11 September 2023

Questions without Notice

Aviation Industry

2:55 pm

Photo of Claire ChandlerClaire Chandler (Tasmania, Liberal Party, Shadow Assistant Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is to the Minister for Trade and Tourism, Senator Farrell. I refer the minister to comments made last week by the minister for transport, Catherine King, when she said, regarding the government's rejection of Qatar Airways, 'I consulted colleagues prior to the decision but the decision was mine.' Earlier that day you yourself, Minister, remarked on ABC RN's Breakfast:

We've been pushing the expansion of flights with a whole range of countries at the moment.

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… I can't say that I specifically had a conversation with her, but I'm aware that her department made it clear that they were … dealing with this issue and going to make a decision about it.

Can you confirm that, despite Minister King's claims she consulted with colleagues, you as this country's Minister for Trade and Tourism were not consulted prior to her making a decision? On what date did you learn that she had made the decision?

2:56 pm

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

I thank Senator Chandler for her question. You're correct, I was asked about this issue on Radio National last week, by that very good journalist Patricia Karvelas. Who wanted—

Photo of Bridget McKenzieBridget McKenzie (Victoria, National Party, Shadow Minister for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Development) Share this | | Hansard source

Shout-out, PK!

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

Yes, shout-out to her. She asked me that very same question, President, and this is the answer I gave:

Look, I can't say that I specifically had a conversation with her, but I'm aware that her department made it clear that they were, you know, dealing with this issue and going to make a decision about it.

I note that Minister King was in fact asked this question in question time in the other place today. She said very clearly, 'I consulted with relevant colleagues as to the normal proper process.' But can I make it very clear—

Photo of Bridget McKenzieBridget McKenzie (Victoria, National Party, Shadow Minister for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Development) Share this | | Hansard source

He consulted, Don.

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator McKenzie, it was Minister McCormack who made the very, very same decision that Minister King has made. This is what Minister King said, 'Can I make it very, very clear yet again that the decision'—

Photo of Simon BirminghamSimon Birmingham (SA, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

A point of order on direct relevance: the minister has already killed a lot of the time by repeating the same quotes that Senator Chandler had in her question. The question was: was he consulted? Does he have any knowledge of whether in fact somebody had a conversation with him or not?

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator Birmingham, the minister was referring to the first part of the question. I will draw the minister to the second part of the question.

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

I made my position very clear on Radio National. I said:

… I can't say that I specifically had a conversation with her, but I'm aware that her department made it clear—

(Time expired)

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator Chandler, a first supplementary?

2:58 pm

Photo of Claire ChandlerClaire Chandler (Tasmania, Liberal Party, Shadow Assistant Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

Minister, have you received any advice from your department regarding increasing flight capacity from other countries into Australia? If so, was Qatar one of those countries?

2:59 pm

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

This government routinely has discussions with other countries and other players in the aviation sector. I, myself, launched the first Vietjet Air flight from Ho Chi Minh City to Brisbane and, of course, there are flights now from Ho Chi Minh into Perth. I also can report that, subsequent to us getting a ban lifted on route travel from China into Australia, we've now got China Southern flying into Australia. Singapore Airlines, another—

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Minister, please resume your seat.

Photo of Bridget McKenzieBridget McKenzie (Victoria, National Party, Shadow Minister for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Development) Share this | | Hansard source

What about Qatar? What are you hiding?

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator McKenzie, I've called you over and over. I've got Senator Chandler on her feet. Senator Chandler, are you now going to a second supplementary?

3:00 pm

Photo of Claire ChandlerClaire Chandler (Tasmania, Liberal Party, Shadow Assistant Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

I am, President. Can you confirm for the record, Minister, that you and your department in fact recommended to the minister for transport that she grant the Qatar request to help deliver more flights, more seats, more freight capacity and cheaper airfares?

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

I can confirm, Senator Chandler, that this government is serious about repairing all of the damage that you lot did to the tourism sector in the two or three years—

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Minister Farrell, please resume your seat. Senator Chandler?

Photo of Claire ChandlerClaire Chandler (Tasmania, Liberal Party, Shadow Assistant Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

I have a point of order, President, on relevance. My question did not make any reference to the previous government. It was very specifically about the advice provided from the department.

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator Chandler, I'm going to remind the minister of your question. Minister, can you get to Senator Chandler's question?

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

Thank you, President. Unlike the way you treated the tourism industry in this country, we have started the process of rebuilding tourism in this country and bit by bit—

Opposit ion senators interjecting

I don't know why you want to keep talking the tourism industry down—unless your strategies while in government were part of a general strategy to undermine the tourism industry. We don't want it undermined. We want to rebuild the tourism industry that you sought to destroy. (Time expired)

Photo of Penny WongPenny Wong (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

I ask that further questions be placed on notice.