Senate debates

Wednesday, 3 August 2022

Questions without Notice

Tourism Industry

2:57 pm

Photo of Helen PolleyHelen Polley (Tasmania, Australian Labor Party) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is to the Minister for Trade and Tourism, Senator Farrell. Can the minister provide an update on the condition of the tourism sector and tourism jobs?

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

I thank Senator Polley, an excellent senator from the great state of Tasmania; she always asks very good questions.

Photo of Bridget McKenzieBridget McKenzie (Victoria, National Party, Shadow Minister for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Development) Share this | | Hansard source

Handouts, handouts.

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

You can talk about handouts, Senator McKenzie!

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator Farrell, address your comments to the chair and not across the chamber.

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

My apologies, President; I will direct the answer to you. The tourism sector has suffered terribly over the last 2½ years, and, I regret to say, a lot of that suffering was brought about and exacerbated by the actions of the former government. Just one example: right when closings and outbreaks were underway, in a whole range of key tourist areas, what did this former government do? It took away the JobKeeper. Now the JobKeeper—

Opposition senators interjecting

No, you should have spent better! You should have—

Opposition senators interjecting

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Minister, please resume your seat. When there's silence I will go to Senator Henderson who's on her feet. Senator Henderson.

Photo of Sarah HendersonSarah Henderson (Victoria, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Communications) Share this | | Hansard source

I would just ask the minister to direct his comments through the chair.

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

I would also ask senators, particularly those on my left, to give the minister the respect to which he is entitled and to listen quietly. Minister, please direct your comments through the chair.

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

Thank you, President, and I was directing my comments to you following your earlier exhortation. Maybe you could have saved some money by not spending $5.5 billion on submarines that never, ever got built. But, getting back to the topic—

Honourable senators interjecting

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Order!

O pposition senators interjecting

Order! You've got one of your own senators on their feet. Wait for the call, Senator Henderson. Senator Henderson.

Photo of Sarah HendersonSarah Henderson (Victoria, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Communications) Share this | | Hansard source

The ministers are on their training wheels, but I would again remind them to direct their comments through you.

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

The minister was doing that. There is a lot of noise on the left-hand side of the chamber. Minister Farrell.

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

I've continued to direct all of my comments to you, President, just to be clear about that. Throughout this period, these tourism operators held on to their businesses, sometimes by—

An opposition senator interjecting

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

I beg your pardon. It's time, Senator Farrell. Senator Polley, a first supplementary?

3:01 pm

Photo of Helen PolleyHelen Polley (Tasmania, Australian Labor Party) Share this | | Hansard source

It's been nine long years since I've asked a question that a minister has been able to answer. How has this workforce and skills shortage led to challenges for tourism businesses and higher costs for consumers?

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

enator FARRELL (—) (): I thank Senator Polley for, once again, an excellent question.

I like all my colleagues, unlike you, Senator Birmingham.

Honourable senators interjecting

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator Farrell, please continue.

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

It's going to be a fun question time tomorrow, I can tell you that. Businesses were forced to let go of staff, and they've struggled to get them back. Why is that? Unfortunately throughout this period, people who really liked working in the tourism sector suddenly found that their employment was no longer secure. Every time there was a lockdown, they lost their job. So, when the labour shortages occurred in other parts of the economy, of course, what was the— (Time expired)

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator Polley, a second supplementary?

3:02 pm

Photo of Helen PolleyHelen Polley (Tasmania, Australian Labor Party) Share this | | Hansard source

What steps is the Albanese Labor government taking to address the mess left by the former government?

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

Another excellent question from Senator Polley—

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Minister, please resume your seat. Senator McKenzie.

Photo of Bridget McKenzieBridget McKenzie (Victoria, National Party, Shadow Minister for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Development) Share this | | Hansard source

I am looking for the answer—along with Senator Polley—to her last two questions, but my point of order is, having listened very carefully to Senator Polley's supplementary, I don't know how it's related to her first question on Tasmanian tourism.

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

I believe it's relevant. I will just double-check with the Clerk. I am advised that it is relevant, as long as Senator Farrell restricts his comments to the tourism area, which he actually has been doing. Minister.

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

Look, I know you don't like hearing these answers, but I've got 49 seconds to do it. The Labor Party is committed to working with the tourism sector to address these skills shortages. The Albanese government will put real money on the table to support the industry, including money—

Honourable senators interjecting

Yes, promises that we took to the last election to support this industry which you failed to do for the previous—

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Please resume your seat, Minister Farrell. Senator Henderson.

Photo of Sarah HendersonSarah Henderson (Victoria, Liberal Party, Shadow Minister for Communications) Share this | | Hansard source

Madam President, you didn't fail to do anything. I would again ask the minister to make his comments through the chair and to be mindful of the error that he's making continually.

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Thank you, Senator Henderson. The minister is making his comments through the chair. There is a fair amount of joking going back and forward across the chamber. I believe, generally, the minister is making his comments through the chair, and I would invite him to continue his remarks.

Photo of Don FarrellDon Farrell (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Trade and Tourism) Share this | | Hansard source

Thank you, Madam President, and thank you for that protection. We're prioritising the backlog of migrant working visas to increase labour supply. We're opening up, as Minister Wong previously said, new fee-free TAFE places to skill up works, which will include 45,000 places across— (Time expired)

Photo of Penny WongPenny Wong (SA, Australian Labor Party, Minister for Foreign Affairs) Share this | | Hansard source

I'm tempted, President, to move an extension of time, but I ask that further questions be placed on the Notice Paper, and wish everyone well for the question time I won't be at tomorrow.