Senate debates

Tuesday, 2 August 2022

Questions without Notice

Superannuation

2:55 pm

Photo of Jacqui LambieJacqui Lambie (Tasmania, Jacqui Lambie Network) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is for the Minister representing the Minister for Financial Services, Senator Gallagher. Minister, right now superannuation managers can only spend their members' money to support their members' financial wellbeing. I would have thought that's just basic common sense, but somehow Labor doesn't agree. Don't you care if directors spend Australians' retirement money on stuff they don't need? We know they'll go back to paying for flashy corporate retreats and news websites like they were doing before we changed the laws.

2:56 pm

Photo of Katy GallagherKaty Gallagher (ACT, Australian Labor Party, Minister for the Public Service) Share this | | Hansard source

I will have to come back to Senator Lambie on that question. I'm sorry. I would want detail before I provide an answer to the chamber. I don't want to be incorrect and have to come back and correct the record. My apologies.

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator Lambie, first supplementary?

Photo of Jacqui LambieJacqui Lambie (Tasmania, Jacqui Lambie Network) Share this | | Hansard source

Everybody knows super managers make donations to political parties and industry groups, which I bet many members do not know and which I do not like. At least they have to tell members who they're donating to and how much they're giving them. Why is Labor proposing to change that? Aren't you guys supposed to be about transparency? That's what you sold during your election. Or do you only care about transparency when you're trying to win elections?

2:57 pm

Photo of Katy GallagherKaty Gallagher (ACT, Australian Labor Party, Minister for the Public Service) Share this | | Hansard source

No, we are a big supporter of transparency and we'll be a lot more transparent in a whole range of areas than those opposite have ever been. As to the detail, I will come back to Senator Lambie with an answer.

Photo of Sue LinesSue Lines (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator Lambie, second supplementary?

Opposition senators interjecting

Order! I don't believe Senator Lambie has been interjecting when you've asked questions, and I would ask you to give her that same respect.

Photo of Jacqui LambieJacqui Lambie (Tasmania, Jacqui Lambie Network) Share this | | Hansard source

Labor says the changes are about reducing complexity for directors, but directors still have to tell members how much they spend on donations, just not where the donation money is going to. Won't that mean they'll have to keep those records anyway? Isn't this really just about hiding super money going to Labor and the unions?

2:58 pm

Photo of Katy GallagherKaty Gallagher (ACT, Australian Labor Party, Minister for the Public Service) Share this | | Hansard source

tor GALLAGHER (—) (): The answer to that is no.