Senate debates

Wednesday, 16 June 2021

Questions without Notice

Environment

2:33 pm

Photo of Sarah Hanson-YoungSarah Hanson-Young (SA, Australian Greens) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is to Senator Birmingham, representing the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister told the G7 summit that Australia will join the High Ambition Coalition for Nature and People and that Australia is committed to protecting a combined 30 per cent of domestic land and oceans by 2030. But the goal of the HAC is to protect 30 per cent land plus 30 per cent oceans. Isn't this just more trickery from your government on global commitments, just like wanting to use carryover credits to meet the Paris targets and commitments?

2:34 pm

Photo of Simon BirminghamSimon Birmingham (SA, Liberal Party, Minister for Finance) Share this | | Hansard source

I thank Senator Hanson-Young for at least the opportunity to note further some of the successes of the Prime Minister's visit to the G7 summit and associated meetings. We have had the opportunity in question time to highlight the benefits of the Australia-UK free trade agreement, but that wasn't the only agreement that the Prime Minister signed as part of his work overseas. The Prime Minister made other commitments. Those included hydrogen cooperation commitments with Germany and with Singapore as part of our technology road map and our commitment to engaging with international partners around how it is we drive down emissions in the future through new technologies that Australia can play a leadership role in. We signed an agreement with Japan in relation to decarbonisation.

Photo of Scott RyanScott Ryan (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Order! Senator Hanson-Young, on a point of order?

Photo of Sarah Hanson-YoungSarah Hanson-Young (SA, Australian Greens) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr President, I ask you to bring the minister to the question. It was in relation to the government's commitment to the HAC and the trickery and accounting that the Prime Minister has used.

Photo of Scott RyanScott Ryan (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator Hanson-Young, it was a particularly broad question, and I've ruled before that when questions include contentious phrases ministers have more discretion in answering. I am listening carefully to the minister, but specific questions are easier to make rulings around direct relevance. Senator Birmingham.

Photo of Simon BirminghamSimon Birmingham (SA, Liberal Party, Minister for Finance) Share this | | Hansard source

I would have thought the Greens would have welcomed the agreement between Australia and Japan in relation to cooperation on decarbonisation, building on those other agreements that the Prime Minister entered into whilst overseas.

Senator Hanson-Young has asked particularly about oceans, and, of course, Australia has responsibility for some of the broadest reach of oceans in the world and that's why in the recent budget our government released a further $100 million as part of an oceans package to further strengthen our leadership in relation to marine management and ocean protection. That includes some $30 million to restore coastal marine ecosystems, particularly those systems such as mangroves, seagrasses and tidal marshes, but it also includes some $40 million to expand the marine park network into the Indian Ocean and protect 45 per cent of Australian waters, as well as to extend to incorporate sea country into Indigenous protected areas across some nine locations, further expanding not only those networks of protected areas but especially Indigenous protected areas. (Time expired)

Photo of Scott RyanScott Ryan (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator Hanson-Young, a supplementary question?

2:36 pm

Photo of Sarah Hanson-YoungSarah Hanson-Young (SA, Australian Greens) Share this | | Hansard source

I note the minister didn't reference the 30 per cent need for protection of domestic land. Isn't it true that, if these weak environment laws that the Prime Minister wants pushed through this place this week were to pass the Senate, there's no way you could meet this commitment? The Prime Minister's just signed up to something he knows he will never be able to reach.

2:37 pm

Photo of Simon BirminghamSimon Birmingham (SA, Liberal Party, Minister for Finance) Share this | | Hansard source

What Senator Hanson-Young describes as weak, our government is determined to make sure are effective. Our definition of effective isn't to simply have laws in place that are a quagmire of bureaucracy and stop everything. Our definition of effective as a government is to make sure they protect the nationally significant environmental assets that need protection but also facilitate development and opportunity across the Australian economy that jobs depend upon.

Again, in the recent budget we outlined close to $30 million in further support around Australia's environment laws and particularly around the operation of the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Funding to ensure the operation of an independent environment insurance commissioner, to pursue a pilot regional plan for a priority development region in partnership with a state or territory, to further support stakeholder engagement in relation to Indigenous cultural heritage, things I would expect the Greens to welcome, but of course they never— (Time expired)

Photo of Scott RyanScott Ryan (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator Hanson-Young, a final supplementary question?

2:38 pm

Photo of Sarah Hanson-YoungSarah Hanson-Young (SA, Australian Greens) Share this | | Hansard source

Will Australia commit to a target of zero extinction, or is the Prime Minister intent on giving everything to the mining companies and nothing to the koalas?

Photo of Simon BirminghamSimon Birmingham (SA, Liberal Party, Minister for Finance) Share this | | Hansard source

For the Greens and, particularly, for Senator Hanson-Young, we know there's the YouTube moment that will be sliced and diced into a little clip that will be used! It's all about the cheap grab, the cheap stunt and never about the serious policy work or analysis as to how you achieve the objectives of absolutely protecting Australia's biodiversity, of protecting Australia's wildlife but also enabling business to operate in a commercially competitive way in Australia in a very competitive global landscape. The types of approaches our government seeks to bring, following the very thorough review of the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act, are all about ensuring that we have effective environmental protections in place, that we work in a more harmonised way with the states and territories for the application of those protections but that we don't have a quagmire of bureaucracy that prohibits projects from even getting off the ground, as the Greens seem to prefer.