Senate debates

Tuesday, 23 July 2019

Questions without Notice

Pensions and Benefits

2:35 pm

Photo of Nita GreenNita Green (Queensland, Australian Labor Party) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is to the Minister for Families and Social Services, Senator Ruston. I refer to reports that the Liberal-National government is targeting Townsville flood victims as part of its robo-debt program. When was the quarantining of Townsville flood victims from Centrelink's welfare debt recovery scheme lifted? Why was this decision made? Who made the decision? And, if not the minister, when did the minister first become aware?

Photo of Anne RustonAnne Ruston (SA, Liberal Party, Minister for Families and Social Services) Share this | | Hansard source

I thank the senator for her question. My understanding is that there has been no debt recovery in the Townsville area, recognising the fact that Townsville is still being impacted on in its recovery from the floods that so devastated the community a number of months ago. So I can confirm that there has been no debt recovery undertaken in the Townsville area.

Photo of Scott RyanScott Ryan (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator Green, a supplementary question.

2:36 pm

Photo of Nita GreenNita Green (Queensland, Australian Labor Party) Share this | | Hansard source

Townsville flood victims are displaced from their homes, have had property and records destroyed, are in the process of fighting for compensation from insurance companies, and are suffering the mental stress of unprecedented levels of flooding. Why is the Liberal-National government subjecting those who are still fighting to recover from the unprecedented levels of flooding to its robo-debt program, as reported in these reports?

Photo of Anne RustonAnne Ruston (SA, Liberal Party, Minister for Families and Social Services) Share this | | Hansard source

Thank you very much, Senator, for your follow up question. I refer you to my answer to the previous question and that is that no debt recovery has occurred in Townsville. But if there are any particular instances the senator is aware of where somebody who has been impacted by these absolutely devastating events in Townsville, where we saw people displaced from their homes and extreme amounts of damage as a result of the floods that happened earlier this year, I would be more than happy to take on any information. Obviously I am not prepared to discuss in this chamber specifics of individual cases, but I would be more than happy to take on any individual issues that you believe have occurred, because, to the best of my knowledge, there has been no debt recovery commenced in Townsville.

Photo of Scott RyanScott Ryan (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator Green, a final supplementary question.

2:37 pm

Photo of Nita GreenNita Green (Queensland, Australian Labor Party) Share this | | Hansard source

Townsville Mayor Jenny Hill has said:

I'd urge the federal government to review the recommencement date of the recovery of these debts because there could be a very real human impact on a community that is already hurting.

Will the minister listen to Ms Hill's plea and agree to not recommence the quarantined robo-debt recovery action until the people of Townsville are back on their feet?

Photo of Anne RustonAnne Ruston (SA, Liberal Party, Minister for Families and Social Services) Share this | | Hansard source

I thank the senator for her further follow up question. I think I actually have already answered your question but just to reinforce to this chamber that this government has no intention of commencing debt recovery on people in Townsville, who have been significantly impacted by the events of earlier this year.

Opposition Senators:

Opposition senators interjecting

Photo of Anne RustonAnne Ruston (SA, Liberal Party, Minister for Families and Social Services) Share this | | Hansard source

If the others on the other side would like to listen to what I have to say they may get the answer to their question.

Photo of Scott RyanScott Ryan (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Order on my left.

Photo of Anne RustonAnne Ruston (SA, Liberal Party, Minister for Families and Social Services) Share this | | Hansard source

I would say to the senator who has asked the question that if the Mayor of Townsville would like to raise any issues with me, I absolutely would welcome her phone call if she believes that anybody has been adversely impacted in Townsville as a result of the actions of the department for which I am responsible.