Senate debates

Wednesday, 5 December 2018

Questions without Notice

Telecommunications

2:15 pm

Photo of Jordon Steele-JohnJordon Steele-John (WA, Australian Greens) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is to the minister representing the Attorney-General, Senator Cash. Late yesterday evening it was reported that the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security had struck a compromise deal on the Telecommunications and Other Legislation Amendment (Assistance and Access) Bill 2018, yet there is still no publicly available information on the substance of this deal. The Department of Home Affairs has received over 15,000 submissions on this bill, yet the government endorsed it and subsequently introduced it without change, referring it to the intelligence and security committee. The committee has received hundreds of submissions speaking to the critical failings of the bill and the consequences, intended or otherwise, of it, yet there have been no significant changes made. When will the details of the deal struck be made publicly available?

2:16 pm

Photo of Michaelia CashMichaelia Cash (WA, Liberal Party, Minister for Small and Family Business) Share this | | Hansard source

I thank Senator Steele-John for the question. Senator Steele-John, in relation to your question, I am going to have to seek instructions from the Attorney-General. Obviously, he is the person aware of any details. I will do that and see if I can revert to you.

Photo of Scott RyanScott Ryan (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator Steele-John, a supplementary question.

Photo of Jordon Steele-JohnJordon Steele-John (WA, Australian Greens) Share this | | Hansard source

A joint submission to the committee from the Communications Alliance, the Australian Industry Group and others echoed the concerns of many of the Australian tech sector, stating that the draft bill poses a real risk to the IT communications export industry, which is worth $3.2 billion. What does the government have to say to tech companies operating in Australia who believe that the threat of this bill will force them to go overseas?

2:17 pm

Photo of Michaelia CashMichaelia Cash (WA, Liberal Party, Minister for Small and Family Business) Share this | | Hansard source

I thank Senator Steele-John for the supplementary question. Yes, Senator Steele-John, I'm quite sure the Attorney-General would say to them they are wrong.

Photo of Scott RyanScott Ryan (President) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator Steele-John, a final supplementary question.

Photo of Jordon Steele-JohnJordon Steele-John (WA, Australian Greens) Share this | | Hansard source

I'm glad to know he's such an expert! In a statement earlier this week, the President of the Senate warned that this bill could have unintended consequences and flagged concerns regarding the potential erosion of parliamentary privilege. Why has the government ignored these concerns when they have been raised by such prominent members of their own administration, such as the President of this place?

2:18 pm

Photo of Michaelia CashMichaelia Cash (WA, Liberal Party, Minister for Small and Family Business) Share this | | Hansard source

The government has not ignored concerns. The government takes advice from its intelligence committees and those who work in those offices. We take it seriously and we respond appropriately.