Senate debates

Monday, 17 August 2015

Questions without Notice

Royal Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption

2:51 pm

Photo of Jacinta CollinsJacinta Collins (Victoria, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Cabinet Secretary) Share this | | Hansard source

My question is to the Attorney-General, Senator Brandis. Can the Attorney-General confirm that the rate for Mr Stoljar, the counsel assisting the royal commission, is in excess of standard rates of counsel and required the Attorney-General's personal sign-off?

2:52 pm

Photo of George BrandisGeorge Brandis (Queensland, Liberal Party, Attorney-General) Share this | | Hansard source

I cannot confirm that, but I will check.

Photo of Jacinta CollinsJacinta Collins (Victoria, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Cabinet Secretary) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr President, I ask a supplementary question. Can the Attorney-General confirm that the total cost of engaging Mr Stoljar from March 2014 to December 2015 was over $3.3 million and can the minister confirm that Mr Stoljar's colleague at 8 Selborne Chambers, Mr Michael Elliot, has received well over $1.4 million to date as counsel assisting the royal commission?

Photo of George BrandisGeorge Brandis (Queensland, Liberal Party, Attorney-General) Share this | | Hansard source

No, Senator Collins, I am not aware of the aggregate fees earned by Mr Stoljar and Mr Elliot but I will take the matter on notice.

Photo of Jacinta CollinsJacinta Collins (Victoria, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Cabinet Secretary) Share this | | Hansard source

Mr President, I ask a further supplementary question. Can the Attorney-General confirm that both Mr Stoljar and Mr Elliot share chambers with Commissioner Heydon in Sydney? What involvement did Commissioner Heydon have in selecting Mr Stoljar and Mr Elliot to assist in the royal commission and where is the balance in that? And given that the government has revealed the exorbitant cost of engaging counsel to the royal commission at least in part in estimates, will the Attorney-General now reveal the total cost to Australian taxpayers of this rort?

2:53 pm

Photo of George BrandisGeorge Brandis (Queensland, Liberal Party, Attorney-General) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator Collins, I am sorry to disappoint you but I am not familiar with the professional address of Mr Heydon, Mr Stoljar or Mr Elliot. If it be the case the Mr Stoljar and Mr Elliot share chambers with Mr Heydon, that would not be the slightest bit unusual. It is very common.

Photo of Jacinta CollinsJacinta Collins (Victoria, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Cabinet Secretary) Share this | | Hansard source

You don't know much, do you, Attorney?

Photo of George BrandisGeorge Brandis (Queensland, Liberal Party, Attorney-General) Share this | | Hansard source

If you would not mind listening, Senator Collins, it is very common when royal commissioners are engaged that they appoint counsel assisting from among barristers with whom they share chambers. In relation to your question—

Photo of Jacinta CollinsJacinta Collins (Victoria, Australian Labor Party, Shadow Cabinet Secretary) Share this | | Hansard source

Who puts out invitations for the Liberal fundraisers?

Photo of George BrandisGeorge Brandis (Queensland, Liberal Party, Attorney-General) Share this | | Hansard source

Senator Collins, are you interested in the answer? In relation to your question about what involvement Mr Heydon had in the selection of Mr Stoljar, Mr Heydon did have a role in the selection of Mr Stoljar and Mr Elliot. If you knew anything about the way royal commissions are conducted, you would know the royal commissioner always nominates counsel assisting.